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		<title>By: Fiend</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-48272</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love watching people cry about stolen designs when there&#039;s not been an original idea in the last 100 years.  Everyone rips everyone, it&#039;s been going on since the reconnaissance and probably before.  If you look long/hard enough you will find most everything has already been done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love watching people cry about stolen designs when there&#8217;s not been an original idea in the last 100 years.  Everyone rips everyone, it&#8217;s been going on since the reconnaissance and probably before.  If you look long/hard enough you will find most everything has already been done.</p>
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		<title>By: MillFeliads</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-39727</link>
		<dc:creator>MillFeliads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 06:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey so I was reading about male enhancement pills and other shit, found this pretty awesome blog here:

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What do you think of this stuff?</description>
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<p><a href="http://classydude24.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Male Enhancement</a></p>
<p>What do you think of this stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Bonneville</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-37674</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Bonneville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 22:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never thought anyone would bother to copy my humble efforts, but I just found one today. 

Here is the original. Notice the orange / gray combinations for the text, and especially the format of the PDF at the bottom of the article:

http://bonfx.com/19-top-fonts-in-19-top-combinations/

Now look at this article with the same basic approach to layout, color choice, and even inclusion of and format of the PDF:

http://bit.ly/av4TKc

I suppose copying is a form of flattery, but I can&#039;t help but feel bummed at having my efforts lifted without reference. But it&#039;s a mixed feeling when I reconsider the Zeldman quote up there.

Enough was changed so that it&#039;s new, but it&#039;s clearly just a copy.

I wouldn&#039;t mind in the least if there was a hat tip somewhere in that, like &quot;more resources&quot;, but there is none.

Oh well.

There are times where I&#039;ve tried to &quot;borrow&quot; from other designers, and was not successful in distancing myself enough from the inspiration to really call it my own. I always, always, always abandoned those efforts.

Copying and not making enough substantial changes to an inspirational source is a pathology in the graphic design field with some &quot;designers&quot;.

There&#039;s just no dignity, and certainly much less joy, in just blatantly copying something without due reference. Maybe it helps cash flow, but that&#039;s about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never thought anyone would bother to copy my humble efforts, but I just found one today. </p>
<p>Here is the original. Notice the orange / gray combinations for the text, and especially the format of the PDF at the bottom of the article:</p>
<p><a href="http://bonfx.com/19-top-fonts-in-19-top-combinations/" rel="nofollow">http://bonfx.com/19-top-fonts-in-19-top-combinations/</a></p>
<p>Now look at this article with the same basic approach to layout, color choice, and even inclusion of and format of the PDF:</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/av4TKc" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/av4TKc</a></p>
<p>I suppose copying is a form of flattery, but I can&#8217;t help but feel bummed at having my efforts lifted without reference. But it&#8217;s a mixed feeling when I reconsider the Zeldman quote up there.</p>
<p>Enough was changed so that it&#8217;s new, but it&#8217;s clearly just a copy.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind in the least if there was a hat tip somewhere in that, like &#8220;more resources&#8221;, but there is none.</p>
<p>Oh well.</p>
<p>There are times where I&#8217;ve tried to &#8220;borrow&#8221; from other designers, and was not successful in distancing myself enough from the inspiration to really call it my own. I always, always, always abandoned those efforts.</p>
<p>Copying and not making enough substantial changes to an inspirational source is a pathology in the graphic design field with some &#8220;designers&#8221;.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s just no dignity, and certainly much less joy, in just blatantly copying something without due reference. Maybe it helps cash flow, but that&#8217;s about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Copyright, Patents, Trademarks &#38; Registered Designs &#124;</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-31955</link>
		<dc:creator>Copyright, Patents, Trademarks &#38; Registered Designs &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Copyright, Patents, Trademarks &#38; Registered Designs - Explained</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-31731</link>
		<dc:creator>Copyright, Patents, Trademarks &#38; Registered Designs - Explained</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tiru meniru &#171; Ruang Nol</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiru meniru &#171; Ruang Nol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think whether those are plagiarized or not would depend on a few things. For one, I&#039;ve had ideas I&#039;ve come up with that have SEEMED like something that&#039;s been done before and I never even saw/read whatever it was. In most of these cases where it&#039;s obvious though, I don&#039;t think that applies.

Several of them I have to wonder if it&#039;s stock images or a copied thing, mostly just the ones where its the exact same image. It either a stock or a plagiarism.

In a few cases where the idea is similar but not exactly the same, it&#039;s probably inspiration. The one I&#039;d pick as the best example for this is the toaster one. It seems to me like they were at least trying to make it their own.

It&#039;s something where it takes a case by case basis to really know whether they copied it or were using it for inspiration. I think that&#039;s something a lot of people have said, but it&#039;s worth restating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think whether those are plagiarized or not would depend on a few things. For one, I&#8217;ve had ideas I&#8217;ve come up with that have SEEMED like something that&#8217;s been done before and I never even saw/read whatever it was. In most of these cases where it&#8217;s obvious though, I don&#8217;t think that applies.</p>
<p>Several of them I have to wonder if it&#8217;s stock images or a copied thing, mostly just the ones where its the exact same image. It either a stock or a plagiarism.</p>
<p>In a few cases where the idea is similar but not exactly the same, it&#8217;s probably inspiration. The one I&#8217;d pick as the best example for this is the toaster one. It seems to me like they were at least trying to make it their own.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s something where it takes a case by case basis to really know whether they copied it or were using it for inspiration. I think that&#8217;s something a lot of people have said, but it&#8217;s worth restating.</p>
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		<title>By: 12 Casos de plagios</title>
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		<dc:creator>12 Casos de plagios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Engin Korkmaz</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-26781</link>
		<dc:creator>Engin Korkmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A font designer named Phil Bracco ripped off my font &quot;XtraQueer&quot;. He calls it &quot;Velvet Teen&quot;.. 
My other design &quot;Retro Never Dies&quot; was stolen and got ripped of by many many people.. Ypu can find all these works on google..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A font designer named Phil Bracco ripped off my font &#8220;XtraQueer&#8221;. He calls it &#8220;Velvet Teen&#8221;..<br />
My other design &#8220;Retro Never Dies&#8221; was stolen and got ripped of by many many people.. Ypu can find all these works on google..</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine at least some of these are the result of stock illustrations and photos and some of the others might be re-purposed commissions. It&#039;s hard to know for sure without knowing the back story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine at least some of these are the result of stock illustrations and photos and some of the others might be re-purposed commissions. It&#8217;s hard to know for sure without knowing the back story.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-20775</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall someone saying &quot;if you are going to take an idea, make it your own&quot;. If you see a style or image, look at it in a way how you can improve and change it to suit your own design purpose.
I believe going out of your way to use a piece of work to use for profit or to claim as your own original is blatent plagiarism.
But I think in some cases, they have to be looked into in-depth and on an individual basis, to establish the guilty party.
At the end of the day, everyone knows about copyright and IP, just most chose to ignore the fact!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall someone saying &#8220;if you are going to take an idea, make it your own&#8221;. If you see a style or image, look at it in a way how you can improve and change it to suit your own design purpose.<br />
I believe going out of your way to use a piece of work to use for profit or to claim as your own original is blatent plagiarism.<br />
But I think in some cases, they have to be looked into in-depth and on an individual basis, to establish the guilty party.<br />
At the end of the day, everyone knows about copyright and IP, just most chose to ignore the fact!</p>
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		<title>By: tj mapes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Design Plagiarism</title>
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		<dc:creator>tj mapes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Design Plagiarism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: g</title>
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		<dc:creator>g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting rip off here:

http://rbmethod.com (rip off)
and
http://eden.cc/ (original)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting rip off here:</p>
<p><a href="http://rbmethod.com" rel="nofollow">http://rbmethod.com</a> (rip off)<br />
and<br />
<a href="http://eden.cc/" rel="nofollow">http://eden.cc/</a> (original)</p>
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		<title>By: Jiving Jumping June Inspiration &#124; Malene Hald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jiving Jumping June Inspiration &#124; Malene Hald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-6846</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, i totally missed the ytwwn site before i commented, shame on me :D, but anyway the line is very fine on inspiration vs theft, i go through it all the time on logopond. it does amaze me what people try to get away with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, i totally missed the ytwwn site before i commented, shame on me <img src='http://justcreativedesign.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> , but anyway the line is very fine on inspiration vs theft, i go through it all the time on logopond. it does amaze me what people try to get away with.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bowker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Bowker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob,

Thanks. I love &#039;em but they&#039;re itchy as hell! Ergo, Photoshop solution!

Dave Bowkers last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.designingthenews.com/~r/DesigningTheNews/~3/299981188/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Project storyboard&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob,</p>
<p>Thanks. I love &#8216;em but they&#8217;re itchy as hell! Ergo, Photoshop solution!</p>
<p>Dave Bowkers last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.designingthenews.com/~r/DesigningTheNews/~3/299981188/" rel="nofollow">Project storyboard</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Cass</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-6041</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Cass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Steve O,&lt;/strong&gt;
Ah sorry about that Steve O, somehow I thought I read ex wife. Well there are how many people in the word? I am sure at least two would have similar thoughts!

&lt;strong&gt;Dave,&lt;/strong&gt;
Nice fake beard :) Glad it is down also and that it is sorted for now.</description>
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Ah sorry about that Steve O, somehow I thought I read ex wife. Well there are how many people in the word? I am sure at least two would have similar thoughts!</p>
<p><strong>Dave,</strong><br />
Nice fake beard <img src='http://justcreativedesign.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Glad it is down also and that it is sorted for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bowker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Bowker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first saw that he had ripped the deisgn I sent an email to him. Still waiting for a reply.

It&#039;s odd that he replied to Krista and not to me. Perhaps he thought that he could ignore me, but got scared when someone else got involved?

I&#039;m also doubting his story about practicing CSS, as he targeted the site as a design portfolio asking for work. 

At least it&#039;s down now. Hopefully he won&#039;t find someone elses design to rip.

Dave Bowkers last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.designingthenews.com/~r/DesigningTheNews/~3/299981188/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Project storyboard&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first saw that he had ripped the deisgn I sent an email to him. Still waiting for a reply.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s odd that he replied to Krista and not to me. Perhaps he thought that he could ignore me, but got scared when someone else got involved?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also doubting his story about practicing CSS, as he targeted the site as a design portfolio asking for work. </p>
<p>At least it&#8217;s down now. Hopefully he won&#8217;t find someone elses design to rip.</p>
<p>Dave Bowkers last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.designingthenews.com/~r/DesigningTheNews/~3/299981188/" rel="nofollow">Project storyboard</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve O</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-6021</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not my ex wife Jacob! Heh, ex girlfriend. When I first saw Jen Starks work I thought that maybe she (my ex) had got the idea from there, but it was done a few months before Jen says she started doing hers. Weird how similar ideas propagate at a similar time.
I&#039;ve visited YTWWN a number of times. Some of the posts can be annoying in that they aren&#039;t rips, but then a lot of the comments annoy me more. Still like to see what they put up though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not my ex wife Jacob! Heh, ex girlfriend. When I first saw Jen Starks work I thought that maybe she (my ex) had got the idea from there, but it was done a few months before Jen says she started doing hers. Weird how similar ideas propagate at a similar time.<br />
I&#8217;ve visited YTWWN a number of times. Some of the posts can be annoying in that they aren&#8217;t rips, but then a lot of the comments annoy me more. Still like to see what they put up though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Cass</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-5987</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Cass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah that is good to hear and hopefully he will learn from his mistakes.</description>
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		<title>By: kristarella</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristarella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 05:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I read the articles on YTWWN when there is one; with the more dubious ones there isn&#039;t usually much description or evidence.

I actually contacted Arran before publishing a blog post about the rip. I thought it was a decent thing to do because I&#039;ve some across an alarming number of people who don&#039;t have much concept of plagiarism. He was quite apologetic and took the site down. He wasn&#039;t expecting anyone to see the site; he&#039;s not a designer, but it&#039;s a hobby and he&#039;s still learning CSS. I directed him to free themes by Chris Pearson, Brian Gardner and the Sandbox project that he could use for learning CSS and WordPress, as well as WAMP and MAMP to play with a site without others seeing it.

kristarellas last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/kristarella/blog/~3/300911998/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Making Goals and Making Graphics&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I read the articles on YTWWN when there is one; with the more dubious ones there isn&#8217;t usually much description or evidence.</p>
<p>I actually contacted Arran before publishing a blog post about the rip. I thought it was a decent thing to do because I&#8217;ve some across an alarming number of people who don&#8217;t have much concept of plagiarism. He was quite apologetic and took the site down. He wasn&#8217;t expecting anyone to see the site; he&#8217;s not a designer, but it&#8217;s a hobby and he&#8217;s still learning CSS. I directed him to free themes by Chris Pearson, Brian Gardner and the Sandbox project that he could use for learning CSS and WordPress, as well as WAMP and MAMP to play with a site without others seeing it.</p>
<p>kristarellas last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/kristarella/blog/~3/300911998/" rel="nofollow">Making Goals and Making Graphics</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Cass</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-5965</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Cass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First off sorry for the delayed response replying to comments, been a bit busy of late. I do  notice that everyone else has discussed it anyway so that is great. Thank You for covering my back!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Toon and Zach,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I believe that there is more information on the source site... http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Andrei,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I wonder where she got her inspiration from if any?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Omition,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah it is quite interesting especially in the cases where you are not sure who ripped who.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Lauren,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the link out to that case. How did you hear about that? The hardest part is finding the line between &#039;Transformative Use&#039; and plagiarism. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I should have put links to the original articles, that was my bad. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Interesting you say that if enough people copy a style it becomes a trend, I never really thought about it that way but there is a difference between style and plagiarism. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is so funny seeing stock photos in magazines, you can pick them straight away especially because most people use istock. The weekly music / club magazines I read every now and then are the worst, they use the same models, brushes and vectors every week on different ads. The worst thing about it is that the ads all come from the same studio but I suppose it is only use designers who really notice it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Kenny,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
As I am at Uni I can relate to using stock images as well however I do not use any image, I make sure there is a creative license on it that allows you to edit it and use it in your own way. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dot Design,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
As my uni professor says, &quot;everything has been done before&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Kristine,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
As they say.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Steve O,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
You can read more about the stories on the site http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/ - I should have put links to the original articles. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nice work your wife did on the paper, it looks like you need a lot of patience.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;David,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Well said. There is more information on each design and their context at http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/ if you are interested. It may clear a few things up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Linzprod,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I agree, copy paste is not a solution.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Periwinkle,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Haha, good to know that lecturers do have a sense of humour.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Kelly,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah I have to question the sneakers as well, there are so many types of shoes now-a-days.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Kristarella,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
So you have read each article on the plagiarised posts? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Josh,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
If you copy paste something does that count as physically recreating? Or what about tracing? If I traced a design that means I physically recreated it but do I own copyright over it? I don&#039;t believe so.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Vela B,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Lauren mentioned earlier in the comments &quot;if enough people copy a style it suddenly becomes a trend instead of a rip&quot; which kind of relates to what you are saying. And I agree with you about making something your own but getting inspiration from somewhere else - I think nearly all designers do that. I even spoke about it in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/10/how-to-design-a-cd-cover-by-listening-to-music/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CD cover design post&lt;/a&gt;. Thanks for the ebook link too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dave,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
That is really disappointing because he is actually selling himself as a designer yet has ripped off someone else&#039;s site. Have you tried any of the things mentioned to get his site down? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;People are not going to learn my copying but the sad thing is that they can still get away with it and be successful. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His site seems to be down at the moment... saying there is no wp-config file.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p><strong>Toon and Zach,</strong><br />
I believe that there is more information on the source site&#8230; <a href="http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/" rel="nofollow">http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/</a></p>
<p><strong>Andrei,</strong><br />
I wonder where she got her inspiration from if any?</p>
<p><strong>Omition,</strong><br />
Yeah it is quite interesting especially in the cases where you are not sure who ripped who.</p>
<p><strong>Lauren,</strong><br />
Thanks for the link out to that case. How did you hear about that? The hardest part is finding the line between &#8216;Transformative Use&#8217; and plagiarism. </p>
<p>I should have put links to the original articles, that was my bad. </p>
<p>Interesting you say that if enough people copy a style it becomes a trend, I never really thought about it that way but there is a difference between style and plagiarism. </p>
<p>It is so funny seeing stock photos in magazines, you can pick them straight away especially because most people use istock. The weekly music / club magazines I read every now and then are the worst, they use the same models, brushes and vectors every week on different ads. The worst thing about it is that the ads all come from the same studio but I suppose it is only use designers who really notice it.</p>
<p><strong>Kenny,</strong><br />
As I am at Uni I can relate to using stock images as well however I do not use any image, I make sure there is a creative license on it that allows you to edit it and use it in your own way. </p>
<p><strong>Dot Design,</strong><br />
As my uni professor says, &quot;everything has been done before&quot;.</p>
<p><strong>Kristine,</strong><br />
As they say.</p>
<p><strong>Steve O,</strong><br />
You can read more about the stories on the site <a href="http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/" rel="nofollow">http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/</a> &#8211; I should have put links to the original articles. </p>
<p>Nice work your wife did on the paper, it looks like you need a lot of patience.</p>
<p><strong>David,</strong><br />
Well said. There is more information on each design and their context at <a href="http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/" rel="nofollow">http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/</a> if you are interested. It may clear a few things up.</p>
<p><strong>Linzprod,</strong><br />
I agree, copy paste is not a solution.</p>
<p><strong>Periwinkle,</strong><br />
Haha, good to know that lecturers do have a sense of humour.</p>
<p><strong>Kelly,</strong><br />
Yeah I have to question the sneakers as well, there are so many types of shoes now-a-days.</p>
<p><strong>Kristarella,</strong><br />
So you have read each article on the plagiarised posts? </p>
<p><strong>Josh,</strong><br />
If you copy paste something does that count as physically recreating? Or what about tracing? If I traced a design that means I physically recreated it but do I own copyright over it? I don&#8217;t believe so.</p>
<p><strong>Vela B,</strong><br />
Lauren mentioned earlier in the comments &quot;if enough people copy a style it suddenly becomes a trend instead of a rip&quot; which kind of relates to what you are saying. And I agree with you about making something your own but getting inspiration from somewhere else &#8211; I think nearly all designers do that. I even spoke about it in my <a href="http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/10/how-to-design-a-cd-cover-by-listening-to-music/" rel="nofollow">CD cover design post</a>. Thanks for the ebook link too.</p>
<p><strong>Dave,</strong><br />
That is really disappointing because he is actually selling himself as a designer yet has ripped off someone else&#8217;s site. Have you tried any of the things mentioned to get his site down? </p>
<p>People are not going to learn my copying but the sad thing is that they can still get away with it and be successful. </p>
<p>His site seems to be down at the moment&#8230; saying there is no wp-config file.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bowker</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-5837</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Bowker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 11:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;this is my design&#039; comment made me laugh, and there&#039;s even a bunch of links which link to content from my site which he hasn&#039;t removed.

Dave Bowkers last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.designingthenews.com/~r/DesigningTheNews/~3/299981188/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Project storyboard&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;this is my design&#8217; comment made me laugh, and there&#8217;s even a bunch of links which link to content from my site which he hasn&#8217;t removed.</p>
<p>Dave Bowkers last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.designingthenews.com/~r/DesigningTheNews/~3/299981188/" rel="nofollow">Project storyboard</a></p>
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		<title>By: ArsGeek &#187; Getting Away With Murder: Design Rip-Off Horror Stories</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-5833</link>
		<dc:creator>ArsGeek &#187; Getting Away With Murder: Design Rip-Off Horror Stories</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 11:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kristarella</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-5773</link>
		<dc:creator>kristarella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 04:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, do you mind if I post about that rip on my blog? I&#039;m seriously appalled by it. I just took another look at his source code and discovered that it still has the body class &quot;page-author-dave&quot; still in it!!!

Feel free to either reply to this comment, or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kristarella.com/contact/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;email me&lt;/a&gt; via my site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, do you mind if I post about that rip on my blog? I&#8217;m seriously appalled by it. I just took another look at his source code and discovered that it still has the body class &#8220;page-author-dave&#8221; still in it!!!</p>
<p>Feel free to either reply to this comment, or <a href="http://www.kristarella.com/contact/" rel="nofollow">email me</a> via my site.</p>
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		<title>By: kristarella</title>
		<link>http://justcreativedesign.com/2008/05/28/graphic-design-plagiarism-rip-offs-2/#comment-5770</link>
		<dc:creator>kristarella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 04:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - that&#039;s awful! It&#039;s a shame because I quite like the way he&#039;s used the design, the header and footer are nice. I hoped maybe if I looked at the code he might have written it himself and just been unoriginal (copying the idea behind the style, but not the code itself), but the code is exactly the same.
Then, he has the cheek to write on every page &quot;This is my design&quot; (in the footer on the front page and then as headings for the about page and portfolio. I can&#039;t believe this kind of thievery takes place! (I guess deep down I can believe it, but have no insight into these people.)

kristarellas last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/kristarella/blog/~3/300911998/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Making Goals and Making Graphics&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; that&#8217;s awful! It&#8217;s a shame because I quite like the way he&#8217;s used the design, the header and footer are nice. I hoped maybe if I looked at the code he might have written it himself and just been unoriginal (copying the idea behind the style, but not the code itself), but the code is exactly the same.<br />
Then, he has the cheek to write on every page &#8220;This is my design&#8221; (in the footer on the front page and then as headings for the about page and portfolio. I can&#8217;t believe this kind of thievery takes place! (I guess deep down I can believe it, but have no insight into these people.)</p>
<p>kristarellas last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/kristarella/blog/~3/300911998/" rel="nofollow">Making Goals and Making Graphics</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bowker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Bowker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I hate most is hotlinking. I&#039;m still having problems with people directly linking to images on my site. 

Last week I found out that some guy had gone and stolen my site design. He just plain ripped it off, and changed 2 background images. 

Original: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.designingthenews.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.designingthenews.com&lt;/a&gt;
Stolen: http://www.mtwodesign.com.au

I even had another guy steal my design, who bragged about how easy it was to do as I only had 2 background images.

It&#039;s very bitter-sweet when your stuff gets stolen.

Dave Bowkers last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.designingthenews.com/~r/DesigningTheNews/~3/299981188/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Project storyboard&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I hate most is hotlinking. I&#8217;m still having problems with people directly linking to images on my site. </p>
<p>Last week I found out that some guy had gone and stolen my site design. He just plain ripped it off, and changed 2 background images. </p>
<p>Original: <a href="http://www.designingthenews.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.designingthenews.com</a><br />
Stolen: <a href="http://www.mtwodesign.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.mtwodesign.com.au</a></p>
<p>I even had another guy steal my design, who bragged about how easy it was to do as I only had 2 background images.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very bitter-sweet when your stuff gets stolen.</p>
<p>Dave Bowkers last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.designingthenews.com/~r/DesigningTheNews/~3/299981188/" rel="nofollow">Project storyboard</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Blatant Design Rip Offs or Just Inspiration? &#124; + fuel your creativity // find your spark +</dc:creator>
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		<dc:creator>Getting Away With Murder: Design Rip-Off Horror Stories</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Creative Recently compiled a list of more rip-offs. So how do you deal with design theft? Here&#8217;s my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vela B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vela B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these designs I&#039;ve seen ripped many times in different forms (the Sugarleaf and Industrie most often).  At a certain point, I think it stops being a plagiarism issue and becomes an art form.  With that said... some of them, like the James Brown copy, are fairly blatantly plagiarized.  It seriously looks like they just flipped the picture and changed some of the words.  I do occasionally use other artists&#039; work as inspiration; however, I try to make it uniquely my own (especially so copyright issues won&#039;t come up!).  If any of the artists who created these works are in need of some basic copyright law, this is a fairly comprehensive &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.booksonboard.com/index.php?BODY=viewbook&amp;BOOK=183736&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;guide to copyright law (ebooks version)&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these designs I&#8217;ve seen ripped many times in different forms (the Sugarleaf and Industrie most often).  At a certain point, I think it stops being a plagiarism issue and becomes an art form.  With that said&#8230; some of them, like the James Brown copy, are fairly blatantly plagiarized.  It seriously looks like they just flipped the picture and changed some of the words.  I do occasionally use other artists&#8217; work as inspiration; however, I try to make it uniquely my own (especially so copyright issues won&#8217;t come up!).  If any of the artists who created these works are in need of some basic copyright law, this is a fairly comprehensive <a href="http://www.booksonboard.com/index.php?BODY=viewbook&amp;BOOK=183736" rel="nofollow">guide to copyright law (ebooks version)</a>.</p>
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